The following is an extended conversation between Dan Thawley of A Magazine and the artist Erik Madigan Heck, who is the Editor of Nomenus Quarterly. They discuss Heck’s working methods, his two most recent photographic series’ for Haider Ackermann and Undercover by Jun Takahashi, and his opinion on the state of fashion today.

In an exclusive collaboration, we offer Erik’s never-before-seen photographs from the upcoming Nomenus Quarterly #10, released online on September 1st, 2010.

(This interview and gallery is presented in two parts. Click here for the UNDERCOVER article)

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An interview with Erik Madigan Heck, part II: HAIDER ACKERMANN

(Continued from part I: UNDERCOVER)
DT: Well let’s switch the discussion back to another body of work you just finished for Haider Ackermann. You were recently flown over to Florence to photograph with Haider for his first menswear collection at Pitti Uomo. Can you tell me about how that collaboration came about, and what it was like when you got to Florence?

EMH: I actually had never met Haider before the shoot in Italy, he was preparing for his presentation, and Michele Montagne suggested I fly over to make a series of photographs, as she had seen the project I did last year with Ann Demeulemeester.

When I arrived in Florence it was a couple days before the show and it was a bit chaotic, but I just started shooting immediately. Haider would style a look on one of the models and then I would take them to different parts of this ancient Palazzo and photograph them individually. I consider myself very much an environmental photographer, so working in Palazzo Corsini was a dream. There was so much history to build off of in each space within the Palazzo, so my job was very easy.

DT: What was the interaction between you and Haider on the shoot?

EMH: I would show Haider images as I worked periodically, but mostly I left him to work with Michele on the styling and took the models to random quiet corners in the house. I like to work alone, and have it be quiet, you always get a more pure sentiment I think when it’s just subject and photographer left to face each other alone. I view photography as a sort of dance between subject and death. You have to stare it in the face by yourself.

DT: Can you speak about the actual images presented below (from Nomenus Quarterly 10), and do you have a favorite image from this series?

EMH: There are around 25-30 final images I chose for Haider, and they really range quite dramatically in their appearance. After I arrived and had a chance to really sit with the collection for a while I understood that both conceptually and aesthetically the photographs must vary as much as his constructions did. My interpretation of Haider’s collection was that it was very romantic, while also being vastly different from piece to piece. I really wanted the photographs to mirror this inconsistency, and create a sort of book of images that were all individually beautiful, but didn’t necessarily seem to fit together- like a box of old photographs you would find at a flea market. It was easy enough with the environment and the casting. Everything present was already eclectic and eccentric. I just had to document the interaction.

I think the portrait of Kate Summers is probably my favorite image. She has such a beautifully classic face, and it was a pure moment. There was no make-up, no lighting, she had just turned away from Haider as he was styling her, and I captured her frozen. It looks like a very posed photograph, but in fact she had kind of turned around and looked up right at the exact moment I put my camera up. It was Henri Cartier Bresson’s decisive moment.

DT: Last question, but relating to what we were speaking on earlier, do you view these photographs for Haider Ackermann as more than just fashion images? What is the political motivation underneath them, or do you like everyone else also sometimes make images that are just for the sake of fashion?

EMH: You’re trying to catch me aren’t you! I will say this, one of the most powerful things anyone can do today is to make something truly beautiful. I don’t believe that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder- that is a fallacy. Beauty is universal, its been proven by numerous philosophers over the last century, we all know something beautiful when we see it. So yes, I think the series for Haider is political in that I have created some very beautiful photographs. It was circumstantially different than a lot of my other work, in that I didn’t have time to premeditate a contrived plan for how the photographs would evolve, but I certainly was familiar with Haider’s work before arriving. After sitting with his collection I knew that I wanted to create something strange in terms of sequence, because the way the clothes came together as a whole collection was unusual. In fashion, as in contemporary art, everyone tends to work in series. It is comforting to most artists to create a series of relatable imagery rather than one stand-alone image. However, I personally prefer viewing photographs and paintings as insular objects, so with this project I made a point to move away from having to work in a unified manner. I suppose I was trying to think differently about how we are supposed to look at photographs in sequence and in relation to each other, so I wanted to just take as many individually beautiful images as I could and not have them have to relate to each other necessarily.

(To read part I, click here.)

Nomenus Quarterly #10 is launched online on September 1st, 2010.
http://www.nomenusquarterly.com

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Photography by Erik Madigan Heck.
Styling by Haider Ackermann.
Location: Palazzo Corsini, Florence, Italy